Production model
Hunyuan-Large 389B
Architecture
| Positional encoding | RoPE (base 10000 with dynamic scaling, paper reports an effective base near 1e9 at 256K context) |
|---|---|
| Norm placement | Pre-Norm |
| Norm type | RMSNorm |
| QK-Norm | — |
| Activation | SwiGLU |
| Attention | GQA (80 query heads, 8 KV heads) with Cross-Layer Attention (KV cache shared across 2 consecutive layers) |
| MoE | 16 specialized experts, top-1 routing + 1 always-on shared expert; expert-specific learning rate; recycling routing |
| Other | 64 layers, hidden dim 6400, FFN intermediate 18304, Cross-Layer Attention with share factor 2 (every pair of layers shares KV), 128K vocabulary, ~7T training tokens, Custom Tencent license (research + commercial, with restrictions at very high revenue) |
Techniques used
- Grouped-Query Attention — 80 query heads grouped into 8 KV heads (G = 10) across 64 layers.
- DeepSeekMoE — 1 shared expert + 16 specialized experts with top-1 routing; specialists train at ~0.31× the shared expert's learning rate (technical report §3).
- Swish-Gated Linear Unit — SwiGLU FFN inside each expert (technical report Table 2).
- Root Mean Square Layer Normalization — Pre-Norm RMSNorm across the 64-layer MoE.
- Rotary Position Embedding — RoPE base pushed to 10⁹ to support the 256K context.
Hunyuan-Large (November 2024) is Tencent’s largest open-weights MoE: 389B total parameters, 52B active per token, 64 layers. The technical report (arXiv:2411.02265) discloses an architecture that follows the dominant 2024 stack with two distinctive MoE-side choices:
- One shared + one specialized expert per token. The router selects top-1 out of 16 specialized experts; the chosen specialist runs alongside an always-on shared expert. This is the DeepSeekMoE shape transposed — fewer, larger experts with top-1 instead of many small experts with top-K.
- Expert-specific learning rate. The specialized experts train with a learning rate scaled to ~0.31× the shared expert’s rate (report §3). Tencent argues this stabilizes early MoE training by letting the shared expert lead while the specialists differentiate.
- Recycling routing. Tokens routed to overloaded experts are recycled to the next-best available expert rather than dropped — a load-balancing fallback distinct from the aux-loss-free approach used by DeepSeek V3.
The non-MoE components are mostly conventional: Pre-Norm RMSNorm, SwiGLU FFN inside each expert, GQA with 80 query heads sharing 8 KV heads, and RoPE with dynamic scaling for the 256K context window. On top of GQA the model adds Cross-Layer Attention (CLA) with share factor 2 — every two consecutive layers reuse the same KV projections — for an additional ~2× KV-cache reduction on top of GQA. This is the same compression idea (multiple layers sharing one KV cache) that later models use under different names.
QK-Norm presence is not surfaced in the technical report and is left out rather than guessed (per the citation policy).
Sources
- https://arxiv.org/abs/2411.02265
- https://huggingface.co/tencent/Tencent-Hunyuan-Large
- https://github.com/Tencent-Hunyuan/Tencent-Hunyuan-Large
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BibTeX
@article{arxiv_2411_02265,
title = {Hunyuan-Large 389B},
author = {Tencent},
year = {2024},
eprint = {2411.02265},
archivePrefix = {arXiv},
url = {https://arxiv.org/abs/2411.02265}
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